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Stephen Drew free agency: Red Sox players no longer believe they need to sign shortstop

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While they clamored for Boston to sign Drew earlier in the off-season, they've moved on to a life without him.

It's mid-March, yet shortstop Stephen Drew is still a free agent. Not only has he spent the winter hearing reports of how teams are not interested in signing him -- at least not for the prices his agent, Scott Boras, is quoting -- but now his former teammates have changed their minds on Drew, according to the Boston Globe's Peter Abraham.

General manager Ben Cherington was always reserved when it came to Boston's chances of re-signing free agent shortstop Stephen Drew. The Red Sox submitted the qualifying offer to him, but the expectation was that Drew would decline it and sign elsewhere, netting Boston a compensatory first-round draft pick. His veteran teammates were (vocally) not in favor of this plan, as they wanted Drew back in uniform as the team's starting shortstop, with top prospect and postseason contributor Xander Bogaerts taking over at third base. This is no longer the case, though.

Red Sox players say Stephen Drew now regrets not taking the qualifying offer when he had the chance. But the veteran players have turned from the idea that the team needs Drew back. That was the case at the beginning of camp, but not since they've had a chance to see Will Middlebrooks re-commit himself.

A year ago, Will Middlebrooks was a little too cocky about his own abilities after a successful rookie campaign, and it ended up costing him in the first half of the season, which led to a demotion to Triple-A. He returned to hit well in the season's final two months, though, showed up to camp early (and sporting pounds of new muscle), and has apparently convinced the Drew supporters in Fort Myers that they're better off with WMB at the hot corner and Bogaerts at short because of it. In essence, Drew lost his most significant remaining supporters, as Boston's veteran players are now on the same page as their bosses, and it's likely erased what sliver of hope remained that he would return to the Sox.

The Mets are still searching for a shortstop, however, so a Drew signing remains a possibility there until New York finds someone else to replace Ruben Tejada, whether it be the Mariners Nick Franklin or a desperate continuation of the Wilmer Flores: Major-League Shortstop experiment. The Blue Jays might relent on Drew for their second base job, now that they missed out on both Ubaldo Jimenez and Ervin Santana on the free agent market, the latter of whom they offered $14 million on a one-year deal to. Both clubs have protected first-round picks, so even if they only get Drew for a year, the cost isn't as high as it is for others, and should Drew have a strong 2014, maybe a qualifying offer won't get in the way of his market next winter as it has in this one.

At this point, you can't imagine the Red Sox care who he goes to, so long as they get their compensation. Should Drew sign elsewhere, the Sox will have their original first-round pick, as well as two additional compensatory picks and the budget that goes with them.


Mets Morning News: The Braves get smooth, Dan Warthen says something stupid

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Your Thursday morning dose of New York Mets and MLB news, notes, and links.

Meet the Mets

On Monday, Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen was caught using an ethnic slur by Wall Street Journal reporter Stu Woo. The incident occurred during a conversation with Warthen and Daisuke Matsuzaka's translator, Jeff Cutler. A few hours after the article was published, Warthen and Sandy Alderson issued apologies.

The Mets lost to the Cardinals, 6-4, in Port St. Lucie. John Lannan shined over four innings, allowing just two unearned runs while striking out five and walking none. However, the bullpen let the Mets down as Kyle Farnsworth and Joel Carreno combined to allow four runs.

Fangraphs takes an in-depth look at Daniel Murphy's great season on the bases.

John Harper says the Mets are monitoring Diamondbacks shortstops Didi Gregorius and Chris Owings for a possible trade. Meanwhile, nothing has changed with Stephen Drew.

Carlos Torres will be in the Mets bullpen on Opening Day.

Bobby Parnell, who was throwing 88-89 mph in Wednesday's game, has no concerns about his velocity.

Around the Majors

The Braves made a significant move, signing pitcher Ervin Santana to a one year, $14.1 million deal. The move was necessary after Kris Medlen's elbow injury, one that will likely require him to undergo Tommy John surgery.

The other primary suitor for Santana, the Blue Jays, were not happy about his decision. Blue Jays manager John Gibbons was expecting the team to sign Santana, while their general manager, Alex Anthopoulos, said Santana did not want to pitch in the American League.

Ken Rosenthal believes the Blue Jays got "too cute" in their pursuit of Santana.

Former Met Francisco Rodriguez suffered a freak injury when he somehow stepped on a cactus.......without shoes.

Veteran Livan Hernandez is retiring after 17 major league seasons. He posted a 4.44 ERA in 3,189 innings while pitching for nine different teams, including the Mets in 2009.

Jimmy Rollins will not play for a third straight game, and it may be due to Rollins' perceived lack of hustle on the basepaths.

Michael Bauman of Grantland looks at why there are so few first base prospects in baseball. Domonic Smith says hi.

Eno Sarris asks: How many starting pitchers does a team need?

Yesterday At AA

Jeffrey Bellone examined how difficult it was for Mets hitters to hit at Citi Field.

The Amazin' Avenue community projectedDaniel Murphy's 2014 season.

If you read an article or find a link that you think would be a great addition to a future edition of Mets Morning News, please forward it to our tips email address tips@grission.com and we'll try to add it in.

Living in Lansing Lugnuts' ballpark possible if things work out for Blue Jays' affiliate

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Robbie Alomar once lived in a ballpark, and now maybe you can too. The Lansing Lugnuts, the Toronto Blue Jays' single-A affiliate in the Midwest League, are looking to complete a massive upgrade to their stadium, which could include the construction of as many as 100 residential units just beyond the outfield wall. This arrangement reminds me somewhat of Northwest Delta Dental Stadium where the double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats play. That ballpark has a Hilton Garden Inn just beyond left field.

The construction will include a rebuild of the dugouts, locker rooms, and the scoreboard in addition to other face lifts for Cooley Law School Stadium in downtown Lansing, Michigan.

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The price tag of the project rings in at just $22 million, less than what the Seattle Mariners will pay Robinson Cano this upcoming season, and is slated to be completed by the 2016 season. The Lugnuts' owner will pay for 50% of the cost, and the City of Lansing will carry the other half, pending a council vote. A private developer will be invited to build the residential complex itself.

I made a visit to the ballpark last summer and found it to be a really nice, small place to watch baseball. Right now there is a grassy berm behind the left field stands where the apartment building will stand, as well as a little carnival area for kids to play in. The ballpark, which opened in 1996, does show its age in a few areas, such as the concession stands and the locker rooms. However, their concessions--and beer selection--are top notch and are available at a great price. Even before these renovations, you should make your way down there some time this season. It's right downtown and really easily accessible. Unless you are allergic, you should also make a point to pick up some freshly roasted nuts at The Peanut Shop downtown.

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Don't worry about broken windows or curtains in the bedroom, apparently the units will be built with ball-proof two-way glass. I still would consider taping up the windows if Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnacion comes by for a rehab stint.

The Blue Jays' player development contract (PDC) with the Lansing Lugnuts run through this upcoming season. We can only hope that the club decides to extend the contract for another two or four years so Jays fans can watch their prospects in the renovated stadium.

Renderings courtesy of the Lansing Lugnuts, used with permission.

Tweet Tweet: Roster Buzz

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Warning: some Blue Jays news that doesn't include Ervin, Carlos, or Johan Santana incoming. Shi Davidi tweeted some bits and pieces of Blue Jays roster news that might make some folks around here happy. First off, Drew Hutchison has been seriously impressing (obviously) and now looks to be the favourite for a rotation spot. The wording is a little ambiguous, but at this point he might even be the favourite ahead of former lock for a starting spot in J.A. Happ. Also, the Blue Jays hype train for Ricky Romero is gaining steam as apparently he's even impressed manager John Gibbons. I'm not sure Ricky has really proven anything at all, but his velocity seems to be up so we'll see what happens.

The tweets also mention how Gibbons has been happy with Melky Cabrera playing centre field, which hasn't been seen much on televised games (I don't think?) so it's hard for us to argue. Obviously having him as a second centre fielder means Anthony Gose has no place on the team and Moises Sierra becomes the favourite to take the fourth oufielder spot. No arguments from me, Sierra has looked good and I'm beginning to wonder what Gose's future with the organization actually is if they don't feel he can eventually replace Colby Rasmus.

Continuing our Shi Davidi special today, he wrote a column wondering whether the Blue Jays should have qualified Josh Johnson after missing on so many free agents. After watching him last year, I think I'd rather take one of the younger, cheaper pitchers instead and I'm actually looking forward to seeing what the back-end of the rotation manages to do this year.

Feel free to use this thread to talk about whatever tickles your fancy on this cold Thursday morning.

The 2014 Bluebird Banter Top 40 Prospects: 1-5

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Finally made it to the top of the list, this was a longer process that it should have been. If you've missed some, 6-10 is here11-15 is here16-20 is here21-15 is here, 26-30 is here31-35 here and 36-40 here. In a few days we'll have a list of players that didn't make the list but are interesting, even if they aren't prospects.

5. Franklin Barreto: Franklin was a high priced (getting $1.45 million in 2012) international free agent signing out of Venezuela. He was number 11 on our list last year, but gets a jump up the list for a very good start to his professional career.

He hit .299/.368/.529 in 44 games with the Gulf Coast League Blue Jays, with 6 triples, 4 home runs, 13 walks, 42 strikeouts and 10 stolen bases. He didn't do as well after being moved up to Bluefield, hitting just .204/.259/.333 in 14 games, but it is a pretty small sample size and he was just 17. On defense, he made more than his share of errors (28 between the two levels), but he is said to have good range and a strong arm, though he might end up moving off shortstop, maybe ending up at second base or center field.

I really like him, good bat, with power, good speed, and plays the middle positions (we could use a middle infielder that could hit and field). He just turned 18 at the end of February, so he's a long ways off yet. MiLB.com voted him our organizational All-Star at short and he won the Jays Webster award for best player on our GCL team.


4.Alberto Tirado: Another international free agent signing, this time out of the Dominican, back in 2011. Alberto had his second season of pro ball in 2013, pitching for Bluefield. He pitched in 12 games, making 8 starts, putting up a 1.68 ERA, 41 hits allowed, 1 home run, 20 walks with 44 strikeouts in 48.1 innings. A few more walks than you would like but then he's just turned 19 in December.

Baseball Prospectus has him as the #76 prospect in baseball, the third Jay on their list, but then John Sickels has him 8th on his Blue Jays prospects list.

It is hard not to like a guy that can hit 96 (Sickel says 96-98) on the radar gun at age 18, he also throws a very good slider and is working on a changeup


3. Daniel Norris: Daniel made 22 starts at Lansing, and 1 start at Dunedin, in 2013. He had a 3.97 ERA, with 85 hits, 46 walks, 100 strikeouts in 90.2 innings. He had 2-7 record, so Zaun would tell you he pitched well enough to lose. He improved as the season went on, in his last 5 starts he had a 0.75 ERA.

Norris was our 2nd round draft pick in the 2011 draft. A 20 year old,  6'2" lefty, throws a fastball that gets to 94, a slider, a changeup and curve. He should start this year in Dunedin.

Jason Parks at Baseball Prospectus wanted him in their top 101 prospects list. http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2014/1/31/5365120/jason-parks-wanted-lhp-daniel-norris-in-the-baseball-prospectus-top. Keith Law had him #4 on his Jays prospect list. Baseball American has him #6. John Sickel has him 4th on his list.  And he was number 7 on list last year.

And he has good reflexes:

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2. Aaron Sanchez: Sanchez was number one on our list last year and it was pretty much a toss up if he was going to be number one this year. We saw him in a spring training game and he showed his good and bad sides: getting 3 strikeouts, but walking 2 batters.

Last year in Dunedin, he had a 3.34 ERA, in 22 games, 20 starts. In 86.1 innings, he allowed 63 hits, 40 walks with 75 strikeouts. We'd like to see the 11% walk rate come down and it likely will, he's just 21.

He was a first round pick in 2010, 34 overall. He throws mid and sometimes high 90's with the fastball. Has a great curve (we saw it in his spring appearance) and a changeup. He is a big guy, 6'4". If he can work out his command troubles, we'll likely see him in Toronto either the end of this year or sometime next. He'll likely start out in New Hampshire this year.

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1.Marcus Stroman: We've seen him this spring. He's a little closer to the majors than Sanchez. He had a terrific 2013, after missing the first 50 days with a suspension for a banned substance, putting up a 3.30 ERA in 20 starts at New Hampshire. 99 hits, 27 walks, 13 home runs, 129 strikeouts in 111.2 innings. Too many home runs, but other than that, pretty great numbers.

The complaint about him is his height, or lack thereof. He generously listed at 5'9" and some don't think he can hold up to the innings that he'd have to pitch as a starter. I don' t know, we've seen enough tall pitchers get hurt, I don't know that he's that much more of a risk.

He throws a mid-90's fastball, a slider, change, curve and cut fastball. He should start the year in Buffalo but if there are any injuries, he should be among the first called up. In a couple of years he could be one of our top starters.

Spring training gamethread 3/12: Astros at Blue Jays, 12:05 p.m.

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Join the conversation as the Astros take on the Blue Jays.

Astros Lineup:

Blue Jays Lineup:

Media:

Astros Radio: 790AM KBME

Thursday GameThread: Blue Jays and Astros

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Once again we have a non-televised game. It is on radio. I think I'll listen to the first few innings, I'm curious to see how Esmil Rogers does.

I think I'm going to order a watch: Bluejays_modify_medium

This company, Modify Watches, has a kickstarter project going to sell watches with your own design.


Lineup

TORONTO BLUE JAYSHOUSTON ASTROS
Jose Reyes, SSRobbie Grossman, CF
Melky Cabrera, CFCarlos Correa, SS
Jose Bautista, RFJon Singleton, 1B
Edwin Encarnacion, DHJesus Guzman, DH
Brett Lawrie, 3BMatt Dominguez, 3B
Adam Lind, 1BGeorge Springer, RF
Dioner Navarro, CCarlos Corporan, C
Moises Sierra, LFL.J. Hoes, LF
Maicer Izturis, 2BCaesar Izturis, 2B

Jays lose to Astros: Esmil Rogers gives up 2 home runs

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Astros 7 Blue Jays 5

Happy Thoughts:

  • Dustin McGowan, coming back after missing time with a flu, did pretty good. 2 innings, only 1 walk allowed. It was mostly fly outs for Dustin, 4 fly outs, 2 ground outs.
  • Jose Reyes was 2 for 3, including a bunt single and got his average over .200 for the first time this spring. ..212.
  • Melky Cabrera was 2 for 3, with a double. He's hitting .364 now, with 5 doubles. I didn't hear any complaints about his play in CF today either.
  • Anthony Gose was 2 for 2 with a double and a triple. .227.
  • Jose Bautista was 1 for 2 and made a couple of nice catches in RF. .375.
  • Edwin Encarnacion was 1 for 2 with a double..323.
  • Adam Lind was 1 for 3 with a double off the wall. .391.
  • Moises Sierra was 1 for 2 with a walk. He was also caught stealing. .304.

Less Happy Thoughts:

  • Esmil Rogers was hit hard. In 3 innings, he allowed 5 hits, 2 home runs, 2 walks, 4 earned with 6 strikeouts. His first inning was good, a ground out and 2 strikeouts. And the 6 strikeouts in total looks good. But I was sure he had the 5th starter's job, but it looks like he wants to make a race out of it. His ERA jumps to 7.00
  • Jeremy Jeffress had a tough time too. 1.1 innings, 4 hits, 2 walks, 1 earned and 1 strikeout. I was really hoping he was going to make the team, but he hasn't had a great spring. His ERA is 4.50, but he's given out 5 walks in 6 innings.
  • Neil Wagner had troubles too. 1.2 innings, 2 hits, a double and a home run, with 2 strikeouts. His ERA is now 7.94 on the spring.
  • Brett Lawrie was 0 for 3. .333.
  • Dioner Navarro was 0 for 3. .238.
  • Ryan Goins was 0 for 2. .214.
  • Luis Rivera isn't impressing me, he sent Jose Bautista home, to get thrown out at the plate. There were 2 outs, so might have been worth the try, but it sounded like he was out by a fair bit  I thought we lost too many runners at the plate last year.
  • We had 13 hits and 3 walk but only scored 5 runs. We did have 2 guys caught stealing and Bautista's out at the plate.

Tomorrow the Red Sox travel to Dunedin. Again it is only on radio, boo. J.A. Happ is pitching in a minor league game tomorrow, not sure who gets the start in the major league game.


Nick Franklin rumors: Orioles, Mets, Rays all interested

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The Mariners are still thinking about trading Nick Franklin and the usual suspects are still interested in making that happen.

The Orioles have joined the Mets and Rays in official pursuit of displaced Mariners' second baseman Nick Franklinaccording to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, who characterizes the discussions as "ongoing" and suggests that a trade is "likely" in the near future.

The Mariners are without a place to play Franklin after acquiring Robinson Cano this winter given that Kyle Seager and Brad Miller have the left side of the infield under control as well. Franklin should generate a decent return thanks to six years of team control and prospect bona fides, meaning the Mariners will be holding out for the right outfielder or pitcher and likely won't sell him for fifty cents on the dollar.

The Orioles make the most sense in the short run because they don't have a good option at second base for the 2014 season, but they have Jonathan Schoop coming up through the system and offering anything of value back in return for a one year upgrade isn't something at which the Orioles will jump.

The Mets need help in the middle infield and Franklin would fit there as a long term solution and as a potential piece that could complement their impressive young pitching for years to come. The Rays are looking for value and flexibility with respect to Franklin who could allow them to shift Zobrist back into the outfield or to first base and they have pitching depth to burn.

Interestingly, Heyman doesn't identify the Blue Jays as a suitor despite a desperate situation at second both in 2014 and in the years that will follow. There aren't many ways for a team to improve this late in the offseason, but moving from a rotating collection of replacement level players to a player like Franklin who will be something close to average would be a big shift for the Jays.

The Mariners seem motivated to get a deal done and there are a variety of teams who need a second baseman, so it stands to reason that something will happen between now and Opening Day. Otherwise, the Mariners will go to battle with an overqualified backup infielder and question marks that could have been addressed elsewhere.

Detroit Tigers Links: The difference between Jim Leyland and Brad Ausmus & Nate Robertson is back ... kind of

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Justin Verlander explains the differences between Jim Leyland and Brad Ausmus; Nate Robertson is back and Rogo is thrilled; and David Schoenfield predicts the MVP, Cy Young, and HR leaders.

Tigers links:

Lower velocity this time of year doesn't worry Tigers closer Joe Nathan
The Detroit News, Tony Paul

More and more, spring-training facilities are catering to the fans and installing the ever-popular radar guns for exhibition games. That's not exactly to Joe Nathan's liking.

Detroit Tigers issue first challenge using replay, add new sign after communication breakdown
MLive.com, Chris Iott

The Tigers challenged a play in the sixth inning after Joe Nathan nearly picked off Adeiny Hechavarria. The call that the runner was safe was upheld.

Detroit Tigers' Justin Verlander breaks down difference between Jim Leyland, Brad Ausmus
Detroit Free Press, Steve Schrader

'The biggest difference is, I guess (Leyland's) a little old school, Brad's a little new school,' Verlander said. 'What that means, I really don't even know, to be honest with you, that's just what people say.'

Tigers sign Nate Robertson to minor-league contract
Beck's Blog, Jason Beck

The last time Nate Robertson was in Tigers camp, he was on the verge of being traded to the Marlins.

30 Tigers in 30 Days: #21 – Bruce Rondon
Walkoff Woodward, Grey Papke

Bruce Rondon’s arm is undeniable. He can throw 100 and he’s been tabbed as a future closer.

The WInter of Comerica's Discontent
Old English D

Comerica is a shambles. The field, while scraped of snow, looks like the frozen Siberian tundra.

Dave Dombrowski Hates Me
TigerSnark

This isn't fair.

Elsewhere in baseball:

MVP, Cy Young, HR leader odds
SweetSpot Blog, David Schoenfield

I'll do a post closer to the start of the season on awards prediction, but here are the early odds for MVP, Cy Young and the MLB home run leader, courtesy of Bovada.lv.

Wanna live in a ballpark?
HardballTalk, Craig Calcaterra

The Toronto Blue Jays' single-A affiliate, the Lansing Lugnuts,want to add 100 residential units just beyond the outfield wall as part of a stadium renovation: By 2016, people might be living at Lansing’s minor league ballpark.

Tigers tweets:





Poll Time: Who should be the Blue Jays 5th starter?

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With the convenient excuse back injury that J.A. Happ is going through, it looks like Ervin Santana will be the 4th starter after Alex signed him this weekendDrew Hutchison will be the 4th starter for the Jays (at least until he has a bad spring outing, then we'll be calling for someone else), i figured we could have a poll asking 'who should be the Blue Jays fifth starter?'.

I was torn between 'should be' and 'will be', because I expect the two questions could have different answers. Of course, the idea of choosing players off a handful of spring innings is silly. Teams generally, even if they say there is a battle, have decided on all the spots before the start of spring training. I'm sure the Jays had decided who the fourth and fifth starters would be, until Happ looked so awful in his first two appearances.

Anyway, let's look at the candidates for the 5th spot in the rotation:

  • Esmil Rogers: It is hardly fair to run this poll just after Esmil has a terrible start. Everyone has a bad outing sooner or later, each spring. I hope that was his one. He's pitched 9 innings, so far this spring, allowed 11 hits, 7 earned, 3 walks with 4 strikeouts. Last year, with 20 starts (and had 24 relief appearances) he was 4-7 with a 4.89 ERA. His September was better, he had a 3.71 ERA in 5 starts. He doesn't have any options left, and I don't think the Jays will want to expose him to waivers, but it is possible they might decide to make him the long man out of the pen.
  • J.A. Happ: Happ, until he touched a ball, had the fourth spot in the rotation all wrapped up. Unfortunately, he went on the mound a couple of times. 1.1 innings, 6 hits, 6 earned, 5 walks and 3 strikeouts. The back trouble might have something to do with that. He's pitching in a minor league game today.
  • Todd Redmond: Another who hasn't impressed this spring. 9 innings, 11 hits, 7 earned, 4 walks, 2 strikeouts (almost the exact same line as Rogers). Last year, he made 14 starts (and 3 relief appearances) and was surprisingly ok. He had a 4.41 ERA, with 72 strikeouts in 69.1 innings. Again, he is out of options, but I'd doubt the Jays are all that concerned about losing him off waivers. He could get the long man out of the pen role too.
  • Ricky Romero: Ricky hasn't been good since 2011, but he's been pretty decent this spring: 7 innings, 3 hits, 1 earned, 5 walks and 6 strikeouts. If he could be the pitcher he was in 2011, that would certainly help out. Just a little repair to his knees, and he's throwing 94 mph. And we all thought the problem was in his head. Obviously, 7 good innings doesn't erase the last two awful seasons. I think, even if he continues to pitch great this spring, he'll start the season in Buffalo and wait for an injury.
  • Marcus Stroman: He's thrown some good pitches, and you can see the potential, but he hasn't been good this spring. 9 innings, 13 hits, 8 earned, 2 home runs, 3 walks, 7 strikeouts. I think he'd likely do fine, but it won't hurt him to start the season in Buffalo.
  • Dustin McGowan: Being sick for more than a week, when they were going to bring you along slowly, doesn't help. He had scoreless 2 innings today. In all, 4 innings, 2 hits, 3 earned, 3 walks and 2 strikeouts. Again he could be the long man in the pen.
  • Kyle Drabek: Kyle has pitched 5 innings, allowed 7 hits, 6 earned, 5 walks with 2 strikeouts. His last time out was better than his first couple of time on the mound, but I don't think we'll be seeing him in Toronto, at least to start the season.

Give us your vote?

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Comparing the A.L. East starting rotations - part 1

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The Orioles rotation has been bolstered by addition of Ubaldo Jimenez. How does the rotation stack up against the rest of A.L. East?

In spring training, a lot of attention is paid to the starting pitchers’ pitching counts and how they are getting ready to embrace a full-season workload. In order to survive this offense-heavy division, having a strong pitching staff is a must.

Fortunately for the Orioles, the team isn’t so much of a bottom-tier pitching power of the MLB anymore as they were as recently as 2011 (7.2 team pitching fWAR, 27th in MLB) or, going a bit back, in 2008 (5.1 team pitching fWAR, 29th in the MLB. Anyone remember this beautiful rotation? ), but it was not quite top-tier of the league last year either, placing 20th in the league with 11.6 fWAR. If you talk about position players, Fangraphs valued the ‘13 Orioles pretty highly - they were 5th in the ML with the highest team Isolated Power (.171, which means that the entire team had the power of Kendrys Morales) and boasted league above-average baserunning and fielding stats (12.7 BsR is the 4th in ML and 29.6 Def is 11th). Needless to say, good offense and defense were part of the 85-77 record last year - solid, but obviously not enough to make the cut in AL East. How good would the team have been if the Orioles had not even a top 10, but a league above-average pitching staff?

Earlier this year, the Orioles made a major move to bolster the pitching rotation by signing Ubaldo Jimenez to a 4-year, $50 million deal. After letting Scott Feldman and Jason Hammel go, the front office decided that Jimenez would be a worthy investment to fill their shoes. Assuming the pitchers perform as expected without being plagued by the injury bug, how will Orioles SPs fare against the rest of AL East?

This is part one of a two-part post that counts down the A.L. East starting rotations. Part two will be published a bit later today, so stay tuned.

5. Toronto Blue Jays:

The Blue Jays’ big dream of 2013 faded away thanks to an unusual amount of injuries that the team endured (link NSFW). If you are a baseball fan, you know who R.A. Dickey is. In 2013, Dickey did not live up to the lofty expectations, but from July 31st to end of the season, he looked much more like his Mets self by going 6-2, 3.11ERA in 84.0 innings pitched. Hitters were not hitting him as hard during that span with a 1.17 HR/9 rate (before then, his HR/9 was 1.54, which is pretty high). It doesn’t necessarily mean that Dickey will rebound to his 2010-’12 self, but Blue Jays fans have a reason to be optimistic about their opening day starter. Also, even if he underperformed in ‘13, he still ate 224.2IP, which is the second-most in the AL after James Shields (228.2IP).

Mark Buehrle is probably the only name in their rotation that lived up to the billing. A veteran finesse lefty who mixes and matches and eats innings did just that - pitching 203.1 innings while earning a solid, but not spectacular 4.15ERA/4.10FIP line (and 2.5 fWAR). His strikeout/walk/HR rate (6.14/2.25/1.06) was not too far off from his career average (5.18/2.04/1.01). Both Steamer and ZiPS project him to take a step back (2.0 WAR and 1.7 WAR, respectively) but I wouldn’t be surprised if he has another >2.0 fWAR season in him. His value kind of leaves something to be desired as a #2 starter of a rotation, but that’s just me. You can count on him being serviceable but perhaps not carrying the staff ala his 2005 (6.0 fWAR. Nothing to scoff at).

Here’s where things get trickier for the Jays. As recently as 2012, Brandon Morrow had finished a solid season in which he had a 86 FIP- (his FIP was 14% better than the league average, for those unfamiliar with FIP-). In 2013, he underperformed and a forearm nerve injury forced him out for the season. Coming into 2014, Morrow only had one season as a reliable starter and he has to bounce back from a subpar 2013 - is it in him? Even though his fastball velocity didn’t decline last year, he got knocked around quite a bit - his strikeout rate declined (7.80 -> 6.96), he was giving up home runs in an alarming rate (15.6% HR/FB) and he was stranding many fewer baserunners (77.3 LOB% -> 66.0 LOB%). Because of his upside, when he’s healthy, he’ll get a chance to redeem himself.

J.A. Happ’s 2013 is marred by the Desmond Jennings line drive that caused him to miss 3 months' worth of action. Statistics-wise, Happ can give a team a serviceable back-end-of-rotation effort (projected 1.5 WAR from Steamer and 1.4 WAR from ZiPS, which I don’t disagree with) but the decline in K-rate (8.96 -> 7.48) and increase in walk rate (3.48 -> 4.37) isn’t all that encouraging. Even though Happ’s 4.79 ERA in 2012 isn’t all that pretty, Blue Jays fans should hope that the peripherals turn back the clock (4.01 FIP/3.92xFIP).

The 5th spot seems to be up for grabs at this moment but 23-year-old Drew Hutchison is one of the favorites. In 2012, Hutchison was having an okay first tour at ML and needed Tommy John surgery. He spent the entire 2013 rehabbing and is looking to earn a rotation spot for 2014. Hutchison has some upside - a fastball that goes up to 95 mph, decent command and many have suggested that he has "adequate #4 upside."

Verdict:

Dickey could be better this year and Buehrle will most likely be Buehrle, but if the rest of the rotation doesn’t step up, the team is in trouble again. The bright spot is that there are starters with good upsides that could break out (Morrow, Hutchison, Stroman) and give the fans something to feel optimistic about. But still, there are plenty of question marks that make it hard to envision that they would match to the Rays or Red Sox-level of rotation quality.


4. Baltimore Orioles:

Ubaldo Jimenez is definitely looking like the #1 guy in the rotation based on salary, 2013 performance, pedigree, etc., but he is not without question marks: was his resurgent 2nd half for real? From July 28th to the end of the regular season, Ubaldo went 8-4, 78.1IP, 23 BB and 94 K’s while earning a 1.72 ERA (that’s good). He allowed only 1 HR during that hot stretch and the walk rate was 2.64 - which is much lower than his career BB/9 of 4.04. Don’t expect him to repeat the same production (well, he could) but if he replicates the dominance of striking out hitters while maintaining the lower walk rate, you can expect a solid #1-#2 starter season from Jimenez. So far this spring, he had one good start (in which he was perfect for two innings versus the Phillies) and one awful one (in which he allowed 7 baserunners in 2 innings versus... the Phillies). The Orioles felt that he was worth the 4-year, $50-million investment, and they gotta hope that they are getting the good Ubaldo. It would be unreasonable to expect a first-half 2010 Ubaldo (15-1, 2.20 ERA while reaching triple digits with his fastball) but you could expect the first 3.0+fWAR Orioles starter since… 2007 Erik Bedard (5.1 fWAR with a ridiculous 10.93 K/9).

Behind Ubaldo are a series of solid but unspectacular arms. After solid showings in both 2012 and 2013, you can count on Chris Tillman to be a solid #2. Tillman, who is going to turn 26 in April, seems to be entering the prime of his career and I feel like he could either progress or regress. While he was luckier than league average with runners on base (80.5% left on base percentage - league average around 70~72%), he was not as lucky with flyballs with 14.2% HR/FB. His 38.5% groundball rate tells us that he’s more of a flyball pitcher so if he succeeds in keeping more flyballs in the ballpark, you can definitely expect a better season from him (as long as he doesn’t tank in other categories). Wei-Yin Chen and Miguel Gonzalez both fit the solid #3~#4 type starter profile as both projection systems expect 1.5~2.0 WAR-type years for them. Neither strike out nor walk an outrageous amount of batters and are both solid low-mid-4.00 FIP pitchers that have proven to be able to eat around 150 IP or more in a season.

There is a 5th spot competition for the O's this spring. Bud Norris, who didn’t have a strong showing after being traded to the Orioles (4.80 ERA in 50.2IP with 4.3 BB/9 but with 10.1 K/9) might be headed to bullpen and it wouldn’t be an unreasonable move. According to this Camden Depot article, he might be good as a situational guy because of poor splits against lefties and faring worse second and third time through the lineups. But because he has a starter pedigree throughout his pro career, the move to bullpen might not be imminent.

Besides Norris, there’s also Kevin Gausman, who, as you may know, had a bit of a tryout at ML in 2013. In 47.2IP, he posted 9.25 K/9 and 2.45 BB/9 - a good combo - but he had a problem with gopher balls by allowing 18.6% flyballs as home runs and having a lowly low strand rate at 64.4%. It’s a small sample and while there are worries, the fact that he can strike out big leaguers while not walking the park is exciting. ZiPS love him for 2014, projecting him to have a 10-9 season with 4.28ERA/3.70FIP with 2.3 WAR (which is higher than what they give to Chen, Gonzalez, and even Tillman). If 2014 is the year that Gausman settles into the rotation, O’s fans have a lot to be excited about.

Then there's Suk-Min Yoon, who is an unknown value for now. He signed with the Orioles at his diminished value two years after winning the Korean league MVP. In KBO, he had most of his success as a starter and he can be a solid middle-back-end-of-rotation guy when healthy. But the problem is, will he stay off the disabled list? For now, Yoon has yet to make his ST debut and there are only two weeks left before the regular season starts - he doesn’t have that much time to impress.

Zach Britton is a dark horse - he is having a strong spring so far and many fans still believe that he could repeat the memorable start of the 2011 season in which he went 8-6 with 3.10 ERA in 87.0IP for the first 14 starts. He still can generate grounders (58.0% groundball percentage in 2013) and is only 26. I can see the Orioles giving him more shots to stick to the rotation - if not, he could be a bullpen arm or pitching for another team.

Verdict:

Pray that Ubaldo’s newfound command is not a fluke and Tillman gets luckier with flyballs. We know what we are getting with Chen and Gonzalez. Holes can be filled with young arms (and Johan Santana, possibly), which would lead to some good dilemmas. But as far as we know, none of the starters seem to be a pure ace-type that would match with the Lesters or the Prices. The rotation could get by in the AL East decently, but because of strong competition in the division, you can’t have a 2013 Jason Hammel-esque underperformer.

Check back at noon for part two in this series.

Friday GameThread

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Another day, another game not on TV.

Drew Hutchison gets the start. One of the spring baseball truisms is that all pitchers hit a 'dead arm' time during spring, so as much as we shouldn't overvalue the good outings he's had, if he has a bad one it isn't the end of the world either.

Sergio Santos will follow him and, all going well, Kyle Drabek will finish out the game.

Want to hear something really sad? Mike McCoy is playing for the Red Sox today. Of course, if he was a Jay, I'd be cheering for him to get a utility infielder job with the Jays. Or fifth starter.

Lineup

TORONTO BLUE JAYSBOSTON RED SOX
Jose Reyes, DHJackie Bradley Jr, CF
Melky Cabrera, LFJonathan Herrera, 3B
Jose Bautista, RFMike Carp, DH
Colby Rasmus, CFMike Napoli, 1B
Dioner Navarro, CJonny Gomes, LF
Dan Johnson, 1BCorey Brown, RF
Ryan Goins, SSRyan Lavarnway, C
Chris Getz, 2BBrock Holt, SS
Munenori Kawasaki, 3BMike McCoy, Good guy on wrong team
Drew Hutchison, PSunscreen Boy, P

Drew Hutchison has another good start, but Jays lose to Red Sox

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Red Sox 3 Blue Jays 1

Happy Thoughts:

  • Drew Hutchison was great again. 4.2 innings, 4 hits, 1 earned, 0 walks and 7 strikeouts. The radio guys were says he was throwing as hard as 95.
  • Sergio Santos had a quick inning, with a ground out, strikeout, ground out.
  • Moises Sierra played 2 innings of first base. There were 3 ground outs, while he was there, and, not that it is tough, he made the catch at first on the throws. I wish we could have seen him play there.
  • Ryan Goins made some nice plays at short.
  • We can be sure Clay Buchholz didn't get burnt in the Florida sun.

Less Happy Thoughts:

  • Kyle Drabek had a good first inning, allowing a walk, but getting 2 strikeouts. His second inning wasn't good. He gave up a leadoff single, with the runner going to second on a Diaz error. A ground out and sac fly scored the run. Then a single and a double scored another run. Kyle had a scoreless 9th, even with two errors, a bad throw by Diaz (but the error was given to first baseman Jared Goedert for not making the catch) and a second error for Goedert booting a sac bunt attempt. A fly out and a ground double play got Kyle out of the inning.  In all Drabek went 3 innings, allowed 3 hits, 1 walk, 2 earned, with 2 strikeouts. With 3 errors made while he was on the mound, it could have been a lot worse.
  • We had some bad defense. Anthony Gose throw to tee play went to the fence in the 8th inning. And the three errors over the 8th and 9th innings. Diaz is supposed to be a very good defensive SS but he hasn't shown it to us this spring.
  • We didn't have much for offense, 5 singles and a double. The double was from Kevin Pillar, driving in both our runs. Goins was 0 for 4, dropping his average to .188. Colby Rasmus was 0 for 3, .273. 0 for 2's go to Jose Bautista (.346), Anthony Gose (.208), Dioner Navarro (.217), Sierra (.280, he did have a walk and he hit a hard line drive that found a glove to end the game) and Chris Getz (..250, he had a walk today too).

The Jays sent Neil Wagner down to the minor league camp today.

Tomorrow they play the Rays, again not on TV or MLB.tv. Bluejays.com says Sean Nolin gets the start, I'm not sure that's right.

Blue Jays sign Mike McDade to minor league contract

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The Blue Jays signed Mike McDade to a minor league contract. He'll likely end up in Buffalo.

McDade was our 6th round pick in the 2007 draft and he appeared on more than one of our top prospects lists. Back in November of 2012, the Jays DFAed him and he was picked up by the Cleveland Indians off waivers. They removed him from the 40-man roster, along with Mike McCoy and Cory Wade, to make room for Ryan Goins and A.J. Jimenez, to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft.

McDade hit .254/.313/.390 in 94 games with Charlotte in the International League last year. He had 10 home runs and 46 RBI. Mike is 24 now and he left prospect status a couple of years ago, but he gives us some depth at 1B in Buffalo. He's a switch hitter and has some power.

Alex, now you've signed him, how about talking to Stephen Drew?


Rays vs. Pirates vs. Blue Jays GDT: Splitty split-squad game

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Bedard, Ramos, and Odorizzi will all be pitching today.

Jake Odorizzi and Cesar Ramos will be playing against the Pirates in Bradenton. Erik Bedard will be in Port Charlotte playing against the Toronto Kawasaki-Navarro Pumpkins. Both games are on radio. Good luck listening to both.

TRUE FACTS:

If'n you want to play baseball, but only have 12 people, it's totally possible to play a three-team game of baseball. The most important thing to have is equal pitching talent spread across the three teams. That's where it can get tricky.

But you have three parts to an inning -- top, middle, bottom -- and you rotation the positions each inning third. It's up to the two defending teams to field the best possible defense.

If you have a legit pitcher, then it can get problematic. One solution: No walks, no strikeouts. Make every PA end with a ball in play. Granted, a decent pitcher will still make it very difficult for the other teams, but hey, sometimes that's just baseball.

Saturday GameThread: Blue Jays @ Rays

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We are hitting that mid-spring training time, where the thrill of there being actual baseball is wearing off (especially when the games are only on radio) and we are impatient for the regular season to start.

Today the Jays travel to Port Charlotte to take on the Rays and many of the veteran players have used their 'get out of the bus ride free' cards. Sean Nolin gets his first start of the spring, he's thrown 3.2 innings in 3 relief appearances, so I wouldn't expect him to go more than 3 or so today.



Join us in the thread.

2014 Toronto Blue Jays Consensus Top 43 Prospects

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What is the consensus ranking for each of the Blue Jays' top prospects?

Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counselors there is safety.

-Proverbs 11:14

Prospect lists are a tricky animal. Every prospect guru has his or her own biases, favorite prospects, sources, and philosophy, leading to quite a variety in the placement of specific players on his or her list. I like making lists and I like prospects, but I'm no scout and I have no inside connections, so my list wouldn't hold any particular weight. Instead of spending loads of time ranking the players with my own biases, I decided a few years ago to instead assemble a consensus list for each team. You can view all of the previous lists here. Hopefully this will bring safety from a multitude of counselors.

How do I do this? Each time a prospect appears on a list, he gets a number of points (51 minus his ranking). The prospect with the largest amount of points is ranked first.

This year, I made a few changes to the list. First off, I included as many lists as I could possibly find. This includes list from team-specific sites, not just from sites that post a list for every team. Second, I created a separate list for fantasy rankings. Fantasy baseball sites rank their prospects with a different flavor and so there are two rankings: one for real baseball and one for fantasy.

You can also view the 2013 Toronto Blue Jays top prospect list.

Sources

Regular Lists

Baseball America

Baseball Prospectus

Bleacher Report

Bluebird Banter

Blue Jays from Away

Fangraphs

Grading on the Curve

Jays Journal

Keith Law (ESPN)

Minor League Ball (John SIckels)

MLB.com

MLB Draft Insider

MLB Prospect Portal

Prospect Digest

Rant

Top Prospect Alert

Vancouver Sun

Fantasy Lists

Dynasty Sports Empire

Fake Teams

Prospect 361

Razzball

The List

The "Change" column describes how the prospect’s status changed from 2013. A positive number means the prospect moved up in the list, while a negative number means he moved down.

Here is a spreadsheet that contains all of the 2014 Toronto Blue Jays top prospect rankings in one place. I have removed Keith Law's as his lists require a subscription, though his list is included in the final tally.

RankFRankPlayerTotalFToChange
11Aaron Sanchez6761590
22Marcus Stroman6661572
34Daniel Norris6231383
44D.J. Davis567138-1
54Sean Nolin5491382
53Roberto Osuna549147-3
77Franklin Barreto53911110
88Alberto Tirado4981022
910Mitch Nay4716610
1011Chase DeJong390656
1112A.J. Jimenez373370
1214Dawel Lugo3023112
1314Matt Smoral25631-8
14NATom Robson252Unranked last year
15NAJairo Labourt215Unranked last year
16NAJohn Stilson212-8
1713Andy Burns1853216
18NADalton Pompey1809
19NAKevin Pillar1491
20NAClinton Hollon1292nd Round
21NAAdonys Cardona124-9
22NADwight Smith Jr.1150
23NAMatt Dean110-2
249Rowdy Tellez986830th Round
25NAJake Brentz9011th Round
26NAMiguel Castro73Unranked last year
27NARichard Urena71Unranked last year
28NASantiago Nessy53-19
29NAL.B. Dantzler4814th Round
30NAAnthony Alford45-17
31NADeck McGuire44-17
32NAMatt Boyd396th Round
33NAChristian Lopes36-19
34NATaylor Cole22Unranked last year
35NAShane Dawson19Unranked last year
36NARyan Goins18-7
37NAJeremy Gabryszwski10-6
38NAGabriel Cena9Unranked last year
39NAYeyfry Del Rosario6-16
40NADickie Thon4Unranked last year
41NARob Rasmussen3Phillies, Brad Lincoln Trade
42NABrady Dragmire2Unranked last year
43NAEmilio Guerrero1Unranked last year

2013 prospects not on 2014 list

Graduated:

Chad Jenkins, #26

Dropped Off:

Tyler Gonzales, #18
Jacob Anderson, #24
Griffin Murphy, #28
Chris Hawkins, #29
Danny Barnes, #31
Javier Avendano, #33

Visual Representation

Here is a chart of the Blue Jays' top prospects. The error bars represent the minimum and maximum ranking for each prospect.

Bluejays2014prospects

It appears that clicking the above graphic makes it slightly larger

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Chris St. John is a writer at Beyond The Box Score. You can follow him on Twitter at @stealofhome.

Sean Nolin gives up grand slam, Jays lose to Rays

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Blue Jays 3 Rays 6

Happy Thoughts:

  • Chad Jenkins was pretty good, 2.1 innings, 2 hits, 1 earned.
  • John Stilson was very good, yet again, 2 innings, 1 hit, 1 walk.
  • Marcus Walden also had 2 scoreless innings.
  • Brad Glenn was 2 for 4, with a double.
  • Kevin Pillar was 2 for 4 with a 2-run triple. He's had some hard hit balls the last couple of days, nice to see.

Less Happy Thoughts:

  • Sean Nolin had a very rough start. 1.2 innings, 5 hits, 5 earned, 3 walks with the grand slam home run. If he was in the running for a roster spot (I don't think he was), he isn't now.
  • Brett Lawrie was 0 for 3 with a walk. .296 on the spring.
  • Moises Sierra was 0 for 4, with a strikeout. He has cooled off since his hot start to the spring. .241.
  • Josh Thole was 0 for 3 with a k. .176. Kratz must be leading the race for the backup catcher job, unless the Jays think he can't catch Dickey.
  • Ryan Goins was 0 for 3. He's hitting .171 now. I know the Jays say the job is his to lose, but I wonder how low the bar is. I presume they would need him to hit better than .171. Especially when all he hits are singles and he doesn't walk much.
  • Colby Rasmus had a throwing error. He was 1 for 3 on the day.

Not that it really matters (though wins are always more fun than losses) but the Jays have lost 4 in a row now. They are 6-10 on the spring. Tomorrow's game is against the Orioles, in Dunedin. And again, no TV.

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